As you can see, it looks a bit similar to the previous one but a bit more complex. The first thing to consider, is that we are now differentiating between synced dialogue and VO. This is because they need to be mixed in a different way. As you can see, only the VO is going to the Mix Master, while the synced dialogue is going to the M&E. This is not always the case, but is quite common to leave the original voice on an interview and dub on top of it with the new languague. Other than that, things flow in a similar fashion.
The other big concept to keep in mind is where to do automation. You would normally automate music on their own tracks and this is what we would do in our case but only for music that goes with synced dialogue. This is because in this case, we don’t mind having dips on the M&E. But for the case of music that goes with VO, we would have a problem if we automate the track itself, since all these changes are going to go directly to the M&E, which is what we want to avoid!
The solution then, is to do the automation on the M&E Master auxiliar everytime that the dips are around narration and VO. Once this is done, we can get two sends from this track. One of them would be a pre-fader send which would become our undipped M&E. The other would be post-fader send or just an output, which would be dipped. That way, we can easily bounce both. As you can see, I have labeled some tracks with A, B or C to indicate where the automation would be done.
The main drawback of this method is that, on occasion, you may feel like fighting between two automations (the track themselves and the M&E master auxiliar), specially when the editing goes from on screen interviews to narration very fast. I don’t see any good solution to this other than keeping the session tidy and making clean fader movements.
Something to keep in mind is that for some situations or for some people a better approach could be to do absolutely every music and effects automation on the M&E master and just don’t act diferently depending on dialogue having lypsinc. This could also work but it is a matter of taste and client needs.
Conclusion & Resources
So that’s pretty much it. This technique is a nice one to have on your toolbox. If you have been asked to deliver an undipped M&E now you know how to do it and why. This video below explains the same idea with some examples on a Pro Tools session. have a listen for extra info. Thanks for reading.